![]() People might disagree over what is and isn't NTR, but if it's pointed out in the thread that the game has a scene where two female LIs have sex with each other, a robot, and a tentacle monster plant, then it's entirely up to the players to decide how they want to feel about that. ![]() Like it or not, because it's such a complex topic, it's something that is much better addressed in threads than just rubberstamped with a single pithy tag. So now you've got a thread full of people who can't agree on what NTR is, let alone whether or not a given game has it or not. And to complicate things further, people will argue over whether or not lesbian scenes in a harem context are NTR if the main character is okay with them but the player isn't given any choice in the matter. And some people will say a female LI cheating on you with anyone - male, female, or otherwise - is automatically NTR. Other people will say that lesbians can be NTR if it fits the other criteria of what makes something NTR. Does lesbian sex count as NTR? Some people will say lesbians can never be NTR. But then apply that to NTR and suddenly you've got a mess. Everyone has a pretty good idea what "lesbian" is. So you get into weird murky grey areas where someone can say a game doesn't have NTR because it doesn't according to their definition, but it absolutely does based on other people's opinions.Īs an easy example, it's easy to say whether or not a game has lesbian scenes in it. If you've never seen a single instance where the back-and-forth starts with the pro side complaining, it's either because you're looking at a very narrow and specific spectrum of game threads, or because your own biases have completely blinded you to anyone who agrees with you - because it's always easier to blame "the other guy" whenever anything goes wrong.Ĭlick to expand.Because, as we've already established, this site does a terrible job of defining what it is and what it isn't, and way too many people have different opinions of what "counts" and what doesn't. And there are absolutely assholes on both sides who go out of their way to be as provocative as possible about it. Both sides are exacerbating the problem, no matter what you may choose to tell yourself. The constant NTR arguments are absolutely a two-way street. I've also seen a few blatantly NTR games where the first few pages of the thread are people complaining about anti-NTR whining when there isn't a single anti-NTR person posting in the thread at all. There are also cases where pro-NTR people have come into threads for games that have an NTR tag and complain because it's not the right kind of NTR, or because it's not NTR enough, or because it's one throwaway scene and they feel like the tag should only describe games with a heavy NTR focus. ![]() There are plenty of cases where pro-NTR people have come into random threads and started asking for NTR in games that don't have it (which sets off the back-and-forth). The better a dev can communicate their intentions and plans for their game, the more likely they are to find the correct fanbase for that game, and one more potentially likely to actually support the game.Ĭlick to expand.They absolutely do - sometimes. Sites like this bring attention to games that would otherwise languish in obscurity, and while most users will always be freeloading cheapskates, good games with friendly devs willing to communicate tend to encourage users to support them just to ensure a game gets finished. A lot of the devs who do choose to engage with people here find that they expand their Patreon fanbase significantly. Even devs who aren't here should be communicative with their intended audience if they actually expect to have an audience.Īs for why devs should care about a pirate site at all is because it still signal boosts their work. Especially if the dev is posting their own tags/descriptions/explanations/etc on Patreon/Discord/etc. Click to expand.In cases where a dev isn't on the board and maintaining their own thread, that would be where whoever is posting the initial thread, linking to game uploads, etc should be doing the same job.
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